Se il riso bianco è collegato al diabete, che dire della Cina?

100 Risposte a “Se il riso bianco è collegato al diabete, che dire della Cina?”

1. It's not meat silly, it's Coca Cola: https://qz.com/1521020/western-junk-food-giants-influenced-chinas-fight-against-obesity/

2. Wow, eye opener

3. What about vegetable protein?

4. I feel like its rice+lean protein that is worse. rice+fattier proteins might have a different effect on insulin?

5. Brown rice, the unpolished form of rice has the bran layer intact and has been suggested as an alternative for polished white rice. But brown rice has very low palatability, higher arsenic content and lacks the divine taste of white rice, hence not preferred by people widely as an alternative for the white rice.

6. So, white rice is okay? White potatoes are okay? You have a white potato video showing that kidneys suffer some.  But how many white potatoes per day do this?  Or is it just white, mashed potatoes without the skin?  A better option may be to eat brown rice and sweet potatoes.  I've found that, if sweet potatoes are microwaved long enough, I can eat the skin also.

7. We need a video on parboiled rice

8. White rice (only) = too much carbs = diabetes.
   Meat (only) = Saturated Fat = not diabetes.

9. A mochi cake or a jelly donut. There you go, solved, bye.

10. Dr. Kempner's rice diet shoulda ended this debate. I think a lot of Asian add the fiber and nutrients back into it by adding veggies.

11. The other thing that went up is technology use. Blue light from screens and lights affect insulin response.

12. I LOVE RICE !!! 💗🍚💗

13. Very interesting Dr Greger. What would happen if you introduce an equivalent amount of olive oil?

14. Perfect video.
    The fact tha China and Japan had the lowest rates in 2000's it means a lot
    These populations were eating rise for centuries.
    Suddenly something change.
    Guess what.
    Its the meat

15. 90% of our diet is carbohydrate. Finding rice to be the culprit is disingenuous. Everything can lend to a balance diet, if only we resort to balance and resist junk foods and fast foods.

16. What about Kempner?

17. so… Keto?

18. White rice is bad… Mmmkay…

19. Because Asians are eating more sugar and junk food

20. well then how do you explain Walter kempner's diet then curing type diabetes with white rice

21. you cant look at it has one food
    nobody really eats white rice alone they eat it will vegetables and drink herbal tea to keep blood sugar in check eat it with some kind of beans or chickpeas that all affects the blood sugar spike and plenty of greens and vegetables no junk food no fatty foods either that's how you can eat it

22. people been eating white rice for years and there not dead neither am i and i eat white rice with vegan channa massala mmm yummy! delicious

23. and when i speak about Chinese people i'm talking about the old times before McDonald came to china

24. i eat white rice and lost over 39 pounds because of it.

25. if you eat beans with white rice the beans make slow down the spike you get from it because beans and chickpeas are a slow carb that get released into the blood stream and carry a gut microbiol effect on the other foods.

26. Korean subtitle

    "만일 흰쌀이 당뇨와 연관되어 있다면, 중국은 왜 그럴까요?"

    쌀은 세계에서 가장 중요한 단 하나의 음식으로 인류 인구의 거의 절반을 먹여살리고 있습니다,
    
    하지만 350,00명의 사람들을 거의 20년간 추적한 7개의 메타분석의 코호트 연구들은,
    
    특히 아시아 사람들에게서 흰쌀의 높은 섭취량이 2형 당뇨병의 심각한 위험성 증가와 연관되어 있다는 것을 발견하였습니다.

    매일마다 흰쌀을 섭취하는 것은 당뇨의 위험의 11%의 증가와 관련되어 있고, 이는 흰쌀 소비량이 높은 아시아 인구에서의 높은 연관성을 설명해줍니다.

    이는 중국이 우리와 거의 비슷한 수준의 당뇨비율을 갖고 있는 이유를 설명해줄지도 모릅니다.

    중국은 7배나 더 낮은 비만율에도 불구하고 이 비율이 10%이고, 우리는 11%입니다.

    일본은 우리나라보다 8배 더 낮은 비만율을 가지고 있지만, 우리나라 비율의 1000건당 8건과 비교하여 9건으로 새롭게 진단되는 당뇨병 비율이 높습니다.

    그들은 더 마르고 여전히 더 많은 당뇨병을 가지고 있고, 이는 아마도 그들이 먹는 흰쌀 때문일지도 모릅니다.

    그저 무가공 과일(있는 그대로)을 먹는 것이 당뇨병의 낮은 위험성과 연관되어 있는 것처럼,
    
    반면에 과일을 가공하여 주스로 먹는 것은 자연스럽지 못하고 실제로 당뇨병의 위험을 증가시킵니다.

    현미나 혹은 통밀빵과 같이 통곡물을 먹는것은 낮은 당뇨병의 위험과 연관되어 있고,
    
    가공된 곡물인 흰쌀은 당뇨병 위험을 실제로 증가시키고 아마도 자연스러운 것이 아닐지도 모릅니다.

    흰쌀은 심장마비나 동맥경화 등의 위험의 증가와 연관되어 있지 않은 것으로 보여 다행이긴 하지만,
    
    더 이전의 중국에서의 연구는 뇌졸증과의 연관성을 암시합니다.

    하지만 우리는 주요 사망원인들과 관련하여 우리가 당뇨, 심장마비, 뇌줄증 그리고 체중 증가의 더 낮은 위험성과
    
    연관된 음식을 먹을 수 있다면 그저 자연스러운 음식을 먹고싶은건가요?

    하지만 만약 당신이 시골지역의 쌀을 중심으로 한 식물기반 식사가 당뇨를 포함한 소위 풍요의 질병이라 부르는 것과
    
    상대적으로 더 낮은 연관성이 있음을 밝히는 코넬-옥스퍼드-중국 프로젝트를 본다면 어떨까요

    아마도 아시아인들은 유전적으로 달라서 그저 흰쌀을 먹어도 혈당수치의 급격한 증가가 똑같이 일어나지 않는 걸까요?

    아닙니다, 만약 중국사람의 민족 특징이 높은 혈당수치 증가를 갖는 것이 아니라면 말이죠.

    이러한 풍요의 질병이 지난 50년간 중국에서 증가하는 것은 동물성 음식들의 소비가 3배 증가한 것으로 변명됩니다.

    당뇨병의 증가는 극적이이었고, 이는 대부분 그저 지난 수십 년동안 일어났습니다.

    이 미친 9.7%의 널리퍼진 당뇨병의 수치는 우리와 새롭게 필적합니다.

    이들은 2000년대 즘에는 세계에서 가장 낮은 당뇨병 수치를 가진것으로 나타났었습니다.

    그래서 이들의 식사에는 지난 20년 혹은 그쯤동안 무슨일이 일어난 것일까요?

    기름의 섭취는 거의 20% 가까이 올랐고, 돼지고기 섭취는 40% 가까이 올랐고,
    
    쌀의 섭취는 30% 가까이 떨어졌습니다.

    그래서 당뇨병의 수치는 쌀의 섭취가 줄어드는 동안, 미친듯이 올랐습니다

    그러니 아마도 동물성 음식과 그리고 정크푸드가 문제일지 모릅니다.

    맞습니다, 현미가 흰쌀보다 낫지만, 증가하는 아시아인의 유행병을 멈추려면,
    
    아마도 우리는 원인인 독성의 서구식 식습관을 줄이는 것에 집중해야할 것입니다.

    이는 아마도 동물성 단백질과 지방의 섭취가 당뇨병 위험을 증가시키는 것과
    
    연관되어 있음을 보여주는 데이터와 일관성이 있어 보입니다.

    하지만 위는 이것을 설명해주지 않습니다.

    만약 고기의 섭취 증가에 책임이 있다면, 왜 최근 가장 규모가 컸던 중국과 일본에서의 연구는 흰쌀의 섭취가 당뇨와 연관되어 있다고 할까요?

    이에 대한 해답은 아마도 동물성 단백질이 쌀을 더 나쁘게 만든다는 것입니다.

    만약 사람들에게 쌀과같이 높은 혈당성 음식인, 으깬 흰감자를 먹였을 때
    
    당신의 혈당수치를 조절하기 위해 당 신의 이자에서 인슐린을 얼마나 내보내 하는지를 보여줍니다.

    하지만 만약 당신이 여기에 참치를 더한다면 어떨까요?

    참치는 탄수화물, 당류, 전분이 없습니다.
    
    아마 어떤 변화도 만들지 않겠죠, 그렇죠? 아니면 아마도 이는 전체 식사의 혈당부하를 낮추어
    
    으깬 감자에 의한 혈당증가를 더 낮출지도 모릅니다, 하지만 대신에 이런 그래프가 그려집니다.

    인슐린 수치 증가가 2배가 됩니다.

    흰 밀가루 스파게니, 그리고 흰 스파게티와 고기를 함께 먹었을 때와 같습니다.

    동물성 단백질의 추가는 이자를 2배만큼 힘들게 합니다.

    당신은 이것을 순수한 설탕물에도 똑같이 할 수 있습니다.

    만약 당신이 일정량의 설탕을 마시는 당뇨 검사를 위한 혈당수치 테스트를 한다면,
    
    이 인슐린 증가 그래프가 당신이 아마 얻게될 결과일 것입니다.
    
    하지만 만약 당신이 정확히 같은양의 설탕을 고기와 함께 섭취한다면 이 그래프를 얻게 될 것입니다.

    더 많은 고기를 먹을수록 이는 더 나빠질 것입니다.

    단지 약간의 고기를 탄수화물에 더하는 것이 많아보이지 않을지 몰라도, 하지만 당신이 3분의 1 가량의 닭가슴살을 먹는다면,
    
    당신은 심각한 인슐린의 증가를 이끌어낼것입니다.

    이는 왜 이러한 식물성기반 식사를 먹는 것이 이러한 당뇨병 비율이 낮추는지 설명해줄지도 모릅니다,
    
    왜냐하면 동물성 단백질은 탄수화물 소화에 시작된 인슐린 분비를 눈에 띄게 증가시킬수 있습니다.

27. I got diebetes drinking coca cola, 37

28. Insulin spike is not the cause of insulin resistance in this case. mTOR overstimulation via amino acids is.

29. I just know if I eat rice and do a blood sugar test my glucose goes higher than anything else I eat. If you wonder how it affected you, just buy a test kit and check for yourself. Costs less than $100.

30. sure protein will increase insulin spikes….thats why we diabetics cant eat unlimited amounts of it.moderation in all things.

31. Conclusion, eat meat with no rice

32. why the protein? I think it's the fat!

33. thank you Dr!

34. Yes white rice but all starchy and carbohydrates Foods are very harmful if they're not understood how to eat them use them and whatever the white rice is actually the worst rice you can eat why because they tamper with it they don't Harvest Brown and tamper with it so when you tamper with it and break it down it becomes worse for you but all carbohydrates and starches have to be really understood people so watch out with the carbs and starches

35. Wrong.
    The culprit is wheat; not rice.
    Western countries fare worse in chronic disease outcomes because of their consumption of wheat as the staple instead of rice which the Japanese & Chinese consume as staple.

36. I’m sending this to uncle roger so he can debunk this

37. Dr. Greger – you and other Vegan Docs have said that diabetes is associated with saturated fats – not either white or brown rice. Dr. Neal Barnard has done lots of research on this and published studies to support this.

38. So all in the GENES

39. Candida type 2 is caused by candida and many i know did the candida spit test and have it. Antibiotics in meat, stress and alcohol reduce good gut bacteria and illness too, keep up with taking kefir.

40. The claims made in this video are ridiculous. He says that adding meat to white rice raises the glycemic index. That is not true, it has been commonly known for years that adding protein or fat to carbohydrates LOWERS the glycemic index. There is even a term for it, it is called "the slope" .check out the Oxford study. This guy is a vegan activist so he is going to say that adding meat to anything will always be unhealthy.

41. u can test yourself, if you have diabetes, eat rice 1 bowl aND SEE WHAT HAPPENS

42. So instead of animal protein, would plant protein also have similar effect?

43. What if I add plant based protein to a sugary meal? Would one see the same insulin increase?

44. .

45. Bcoz some people tries to measure the blood sugar right after eating white rice , lol. All the measures are spike up right after eating then back to normal after a few hours

46. I'v been eating white rice since I was young I'm 30 now and still don't have diabetes my blood sugar is fine, I eat 3 to 4x a day, 5x in some occasion , bcos I'm a Filipino! , but now that people are rich , they can afford to buy meat 🍗 everything that make the tongue sweets and enjoyable to eat, what we do mix with rice is the caused of cancer , diabetes and certain diseases not the rice itself.

47. Next time taking breath around is dangerous,

48. WHY does ANIMAL PROTEIN accentuate the insulin spike?

49. Just put animal products in there without differentiating between junk animal products vs healthy essential ones. Good job Liar.

50. Kinda hard to cut out rice from your diet when all the dishes in your culture need rice to complete it. It's everywhere.

51. Diapetes is not from rice , Chinese people eated rice very long times in history , but today there is McDonalds and sugar food . Sow this rice Connecticuting to diapetes is not and cannot be true

52. Dr. I would love it if you would do a video showing plates full of food displaying exactly what and how a diabetic could eat in a full day, meaning for breakfast, lunch and for dinner. I'm confused,

53. I wish there was a study on eating white rice with plant protein and tracking the glycemic index. I would expect that rice and beans wouldn't have the same effect as rice and meat.

54. Thx

55. I quit rice and other grains. My diabetes reversed and blood sugar normal.

56. I'm sure it's more the fact that more processed food is entering into Asian diets. Also their more sedentary lifestyle in the last 50 yrs. as well as adding way more meat

57. Damn.
    I just bought some Waguy A5 stakes and was very much looking forward to trying them.

58. Basically, meat and oils increase insulin spikes and obesity.

59. It’s the fat and oil that causes insulin resistance. That’s why vinegar increases insulin sensitivity caz it is an oil solvent. Eat only sugar and watch 10 days later of no oil no fat your diabetes disappears. Keto is not the solution for diabetes.

60. Yes and no to the animal protein causing this. I am in china and i find that there are a number of Buddhists in the temples who have diabetes. It is the OIL as well as the processed condiments etc. cut out meat and oil and this problem disappears.

61. Whole grains and fruits are diabetes nightmare.

62. Eat only red meat, and you will get rid from diabetes….. guaranteed.

63. What about mixed fat + animal protein + plants with a starch? E.g, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21338539/ or https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30984356/

64. probably because of arsenic too. But does, plant-based protein spike the blood sugar also? Does rice and tofu spike it for example?

65. Seems to be conflating "protein" with "meat." What happens when you add tofu to white rice?

66. You'll have to pry the pork fried rice from my cold, dead hands.

67. White rice is pure carbs and carbs is not cause of diabetes saturated fat is. Diabetes is a disease of fat toxicity from saturated fats and cholesterol raising foods.

68. How about white rice and plant protein?

69. As always so interesting and very informative – eat a whole food plant based SOS free diet ( added sugar, oil, salt )

70. The Japanese have always ate seafood. They just started eating more pork and other meats.

71. I think white rice and white pasta are probably fine if eaten with some vegetable or beans. It helps keep costs down and the other stuff should help with blood sugar spikes and overeating.

72. Brown rice is a medium glycemic food, white rice is not. That makes a huge difference. Still, white rice has been consumed in massive quantities in Asia even before the explosion in diabetes there, so something else must be happening, and protein consumption is probably to blame.

    Japan and China both have rising meat consumption, and rising consumption of fried, processed foods. Traditionally, these countries ate foods that were steamed and boiled predominantly, and people only occasionally ate meat. Stir frying was actually the Asian equivalent of "fast food", and only available to the affluent.

73. Proper FOOD COMBINING IS KEY! The fact that you should NEVER eat protein with starch SHOULD be common knowledge. Meat and Potatoes in the same meal is TERRIBLE. A PIZZA with dairy,/cheese, meat and starch from the crust is even worse. Meat is digested much more easily if eaten by itself with a salad of raw veggies. The same goes for starch ie potatoes, grains, bread and the same goes for dairy.

    I bet if the Asian diets pre-1950s were studied you'd see a far healthier population with few animal products in the diet and you'd see lots of veggies eaten with their rice instead of meat and a much lower mortality rate..

74. Nice video, I use Libre and Blucon and love them. The alarms are nice and are loud enough to wake me up. You can adjust your BG ranges to whatever you want. The best part of blucon is I can calibrate it for higher accuracy!

75. Junk food is the problem. Not animal protein and animal fat.

76. Nice video, I use Libre and Blucon and love them. The alarms are nice and are loud enough to wake me up. You can adjust your BG ranges to whatever you want. The best part of blucon is I can calibrate it for higher accuracy!

77. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzffheC31mA

78. Any update to this with other types of protein like seafood, or plant?

79. Understand https://youtu.be/tKGK2saMd7s
    it's the triglycerides in the blood clogging up the receptors of the cells to receive the insulin so the body keeps calling for more and more insulin get it!! This causes insulin resistance leading to type 2 diabetes. I'm done

80. It is the carb load that matters the most for diabetes. If you eat a lot of carbs, like 2-3 bowls of white rice per meal you will have to secrete insulin rapidly and thoroughly. I don't buy that protein from meats substantially increase your diabetes either. It is more so to do with excess consumption of sugar. Namely fructose. That is the main driver of diabetes and obesity has very loose or low credible correlation with diabetes. Gaining fat and losing fat is what a healthy body should do with excess food and it is clear that underneath skin is the safest storage of fat. If you get fat, you just lose the weight. It is not a big deal. Fat in the organs is a different story. The reason why diabetes is driven by sugar is because with processed foods that are preserved, basically almost everything has sugar in it. Fructose is not stored as fat underneath the skin. That is the problem because excess sugar consumption has to store the energy somewhere else if it can't the skin. If it can't be stored as fat under the skin, that is actually metabolic inefficiency and that is not even mentioning the full metabolism of sugar. Don't believe it? Drink several cans of soda a day, everyday, and in a year, go visit your doctor for a blood work. Knock yourself out.

81. Thank you for this. I understand many cultures LIKE white rice, but my choice is always for the whole grains like
    brown rice and millet. Dr. Sebi stated "do not eat anything WHITE" (white salt, white sugar, MILK, and yes–cauliflower).
    I agree with his advice and have never liked white rice. It is bland and offers little energy/nutrition benefit.

82. 👍👍

83. From day one I always know that no problem doesn’t have a solution,but still I was thinking of how to get rid of my diabetes because I couldn’t stand it anymore,but I was suddenly recommended to Dr osaye due to the testimonies I saw, I also saw him on Instagram and then ordered the medicine, I finally came out negative for my test result thanks Dr I appreciate your kind gesture..

84. If you look at china’s diet, you would understand why.. a lot of their dishes are loaded with sugar, that combined with white rice and you have a deadly combo. White rice is not the only thing to blame here!! So enjoy your white rice, people.. just pair it with lots of vegetables.

85. They found the 31 famines from the raj (90mill dead) in India made us more prone (adaptive starvation)

86. Very informative. Mostly I eat red and brown rice, but like white rice with Asian food. This kind of info helps me to stay with red and brown rice. Thanks!

87. What is the proper way to drink water?

88. Big up Dr G… keep telling the fools of the world the food, the whole food and nothing but the food

89. Where is the graph for the insulin spike only when protein was consumed?

90. i hate the way this ego talks

91. If white rice are diabetic reason 1. Eat small portion or half bowl white rice (basmathi-diabetic rice, or black rice-healthy). 2. High vegetables and super healthy fruits 3. Low meat diet 4. Exercise 5. Daily nutritional anti-inflammatory & Immune System tea drinks.

92. Has there been a study about blood glucose on meat only diet?

93. Like Dr. McDougal stated we are Starchivores (rice, bread, potato, corn) – not starchivore meat eaters.

94. Diabetes has the highest rate of diabetes in the world. Who made this video?

95. Totally interesting.

96. I can't stand brown rice;
    Ill eat white rice inaminute

97. What about rice with eggs? Or rice with milk?
    Healthy or nah?

98. I'm very confused…all the info I've read on the glycemic index say to add protein/fat to a meal with carbs to lower the glycemic load….

99. For those that eat meat… Eat your protein first. Half hour later have your carbs and the problem is solved. I've done it in the past and the insulin response is much less.

100. If we cut sugars, the rice is okay. Keto seems to dispel diabetes claims. The main issue is what are the animals being fed?

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