Il miso è salutare?

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Il miso è ricco di sodio, che è collegato sia al cancro allo stomaco che all'ipertensione, quindi è sicuro consumare il miso?

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Quindi la pasta di miso, un alimento intero di soia, può essere usata come fonte di salsedine quando si cucina. Ecco perché l'ho usato nella mia ricetta del pesto in How Not to Die (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/book-trailer-for-how-not-to-die/ ). Può aiutarti a scuotere l'abitudine al sale (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/shaking-salt-habit/). <br/>
Non sei convinto che il sale ti faccia male? Guarda video come:
• L'ipertensione può essere una scelta (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/high-blood-pressure -may-be-a-choice/)

• Spolverare il dubbio: prendere gli scettici del sodio con un pizzico di sale (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/sprinkling-doubt-taking-sodium-skeptics-with-a-pinch-of-salt/)
• L'evidenza che il sale aumenta la pressione sanguigna ( http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-evidence-that-salt-raises-blood- pressure/)
• Gli scettici del sodio cercano di scuotere il dibattito sul sale (http: //nutritionfacts.org/video/sodium-skeptics-try-to-shake-up-the-salt-debate/)
• Sodio e funzione arteriosa : A-Salting our Endothelium (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/sodium-and-arterial-function-a-salting-our-endothelium/ )

Non sei convinto che la soia faccia bene? Guarda video come:
• La soia è salutare per chi sopravvive al cancro al seno? (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-soy-healthy-for-breast-cancer-survivors)
• Aumento della durata della vita dai fagioli (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/increased-lifespan- from-beans/)
• Chi non dovrebbe mangiare la soia? (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/who-shouldnt-eat-soy)

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100 Risposte a “Il miso è salutare?”

  4. so…this is why some people said to me that vegetarians or vegans die from stomash cancer an it is because these people eat a lot of process foods that have to much salt in them? like canned fake meat for example???

  5. Is it just me or does the sound seem to be slower than usual???? It sounds like a stuttering Dr.Greger!! (And yes the speed of my video settings are set to normal)…

  7. Good advice would be to wash the salt off ur miso before u cook it. I do this to the sauerkraut I make cause I ferment it with a cheap table salt.
    Don't buy store made miso or soy products which usually contain corn syrup and additives.
    Would rely on eating too much soy products either specially if ur already using a soy milk substitute. I'd much rather consume a little natural cows milk with lactose than artificially sweetened soy products.
    Remember a balanced diet is healthy just because u eat vegan doesn't mean ur eating healthy. U need a healthy ratio of fat, protein and carbohydrates.

  9. I think what's being left out is that salt is a carcinogen for people with certain conditions — namely, stomach ulcers. H. pylori, the bacteria behind most cases of stomach ulcers, is extremely common in Asia, and it's known to increase stomach cancer risk. Rub salt on that wound and it can only get worse.

  11. But most salty food are unhealthy anyways…
    Sothe increase in stomach cancer maybe and big part because of the food that the salt is in like meat, potatoe chips, etc.
    Kale is usually not salt like that.

  21. 1:38 As KOR is clearly an outlier, way above the linear regression, it's a bad example to confirm your point. One could expect other factors at play, there (and in TOB). Picking CHI as an example of the relation Na-intake / stomach cancer mortality would be a sounder choice, Dr.

    Less dramatic, maybe… But teaching your audience to fish would do it a good turn. (i.e. teaching how to properly interpret scientific literature, not how to catch "food") We must treat all outliers the same, and resist the attraction of the ones that confirm our assumptions.

  22. Really happy to see this video. I've been on the fence for so long over miso soup specifically because of concerns about its high sodium content.

  23. you always wind up saying nothing definitively in the end;  soy sauce is the 3rd(?) leading cause of strokes in Japanese men.   thanks for alerting me to the salt/stomach connection, as I'm experiencing  great pain in my stomach, and salty taste lingers in my month for days and my kidney hurts.  will drink soy milk, give up salt  . EMnEM in one of his videos mentioned steak eating and pointed to his own ass and that brought it home for me.

  24. Hello Dr.

    Can you get enough protein to build muscle through weight lifting on the food lifestyle you advocate?

    I know protein needs aren't as high as many people are led to believe, but can the protein from nuts and greens alone be enough for weight lifters? (Since they require slightly more protein than non-lifters).

  25. Thanks! I asked this question a few times in the Q and As but they were always too busy to get an answer. It's good to know, I eat a lot of miso I love it. I like the flavour and I like a bit of salty taste. I never add table salt, but a diet totally devoid in any salty flavour isn't for me.

  30. Korea is an outlier but why is Japan still so high on the graph of stomach cancer mortality? Is the Japanese diet so salty that even the benefits of soy consumption can't keep up?

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  32. I was so scared when I clicked on this and I'm SO relieved right now haha. I love miso soup. Not gonna make kimchi any time soon after seeing this, though…what a bummer.

  38. What??? dis you say that kimchi is not healthy? what about the benefit of fermented food? and kimchi being 1 of the healthiest food in the world by American Health & Living Magezine?

  41. I'm interested in learning more about pickled and fermented foods. I thought they were good for the digestive system because of probiotics. Perhaps you can address this in a future video? Thanks!

  45. The title had me worried for a minute there. I love Miso soup and get it as opposed to clear soup at our favorite Asian restaurant. Excellent information! Thanks Dr. Greger. 👍🏼

  47. So would something like douchi (fermented black soybean) be as protective? They're essentially the same thing with the added benefits of anthocyanins so….

  52. So as a vegan and a cyclist I find I have to eat more salt than I would like as without I get nauseous and dizzy due to loss of electrolytes. Am I protected by soy consumption?

  55. 1:01 I very much enjoy these videos but Dr. Gregier shows his basis. Those eating fish but no meat actually had lower cancer stomach rates that both vegetarians and meat eaters. Despite being in the paper Dr. Greger didn't mention this. It may be wise to avoid salted fish but this may suggest fish/seafood has anti-stomach cancer effects, but Dr. Gregier missed the chance to mention this.

  56. My thought is that the stomach cancer is due to lack of other minerals like selenium, iodine and boron, not so much too much salt. These rules apply to other cancer risks like breast cancer as well. These minerals have such a positive impact on health, that the Medical Industry tries it's best to ignore them, as good health is bad for their business.

  57. I would also point out that Miso is made with grains too like rice or wheat added to the soy paste, and FERMENTED. So to ascribe it's properties to soy is like saying apple juice or cider and vinegar (fermented cider) are the same thing. They clearly are not. Soys in general are something to be avoided, as opposed to Miso, which have a very good record.
    https://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-truth-about-non-fermented-vs-fermented-soy-protein.html

  58. Vegans won't like this, but I eat plant based but my super soup is organic grass fed bone broth 2 cup, Miso paste 1 tbs, 1 tbs sesame oil. 1 tsp Coconut amino's or other, scallions and 1 tsp tumeric. So yum !

  59. If they don't eat miso soups, they might eat other types of salt rich soups or noodles instead. So I'm not sure miso can reduce blood pressure. Maybe blood pressure raising effect would be 1 percent salt water > miso soup with 1% salt > hot water without salt. But at least it's better than other options when we want some salty flavor. Doctors suggest to add a lot of vegetables in miso soup to reduce salt intake using dashi to enrich flavor. But most of cheap dashi powders are using a lot of MSG. So it's better to 1.Prepare dashi with your own using dried kombu kelp and dried shiitake mushroom or fish flakes or 2. Using dashi teabags or powder which doesn't contain food additives or 3. Adding some Umami rich ingredients like pork, fish or clams instead of dashi.

  61. So the concern that the salt content will cause high blood pressure and gastric cancer are negated… but aren't fermented foods like kimchi and sauerkraut now linked to gastric cancer? Is miso different than other fermented foods? Can someone explain; I genuinely don't understand. I can easily take sauerkraut out of my diet, but I really like miso paste.

  62. Are liquid aminos okay to use since they are made from soy? Also is there a miso limit to use, we are going to replace salt with miso? Thanks in for any help!!!

  64. Born and raised in Japan, I grew up eating miso and tofu and always loved them. I was worried for a while after I had heard from so many people here in the states that soy was so bad for health. After watching this, I can enjoy eating miso again. Thank you so much, Dr. Greger! 😊

  67. Maybe just make miso with potassium chloride instead of sodium chloride? It has the same taste, but doesn't increase blood pressure.

  69. I am glad I took the time to watch the video. I was thinking Miso may not stand so well… I should have known better than that; as when I lived in Japan I had better health overall. I ate Miso with seaweed and sliced leeks almost every breakfast, two or more bowls.

  70. I'd still avoid miso. The effects of the added salt aren't necessarily mediated only by the blood pressure.

    Not to mention, Greger only talked about stomach cancer and blood pressure in this vid. Salt also increases the risk of stroke. I'm not certain the miso is gonna counteract the stroke risk, too.

  75. OTOH, Japan still has the world's 3rd highest incidence of stomach cancer. Mongolia is #2. I've lived in Japan for 15 years. Might not the high rates of smoking and alcohol consumption may also play a role? I like miso, but use a low salt version and limit how much and how often I consume.

  76. @nutitionfacts.org Dr Greger do you have a video on sauerkraut? I have had numerous ‘discussions’ with people over the benefits/disadvantages of sauerkraut and other fermented foods. This video is a start but i did not see one specifically on kraut. Particularly the traditionally made, six week plus fermented cabbage.

  77. Thank you very much Dr Greger. Listening and watching your videos gives us hope. Is it advisable then to add miso in our food if one has hypertension or heart failure.

  78. Just replying to a well expressed comment about the fermented nature of miso. Sauerkraut may well lose antioxidant properties, but like kimchi is fermented and as such, invaluable for gut health; a natural probiotic. While it is true that Korean men are reported to be at high risk of stomach cancer, I wouldn't put it down to the kimchi, shrimp or no shrimp, and no shrimp was ever harmed in this response and my consumption of kimchi. These foods, while salty, are not consumed in large quantities — just don't add any salt to the rest of the meal. In Japan, Korean fast food restaurants were their go-to McDonalds … before McDonalds. What did they eat? 3 or more people dipping thinly sliced meats — a dizzy array of them — into hot peanut oil, among other things. I would think about that. Pickled foods are emphatically NOT fermented foods; pickles themselves, plus anything pickled, including pickled ginger, is not good for one. Brine and the process of fermentation are simply not the same thing. So miso is whooo hooo excellent if non-pasteurized and never boiled, and a couple spoonfuls of Kimchi or Sauerkraut per day (apple cider vinegar also fermented) is not going to harm me. This really is a once in a blue moon moment when I am at odds with your research focus; would be great to see another video on fermentation as pro microbiome in the gut. TX!

  80. Amazing video, really informative. I loved how well the information from papers and researches was put on the video and how concise it was, good job!
    You've earned a subscriber

  81. Miso is a Japanese food item and not South Korean a massive information on South Koreans and the correlation between Miso and them.
    I agree with salt and it's dangers though.

  82. SO MANY CORRELATIONS. Did not address confounding. It could be that people who genetically like miso (and hate pickles) also have a lower risk of Ca. Correlation is not causality

  86. i would be very cautious about using miso liberally because of these studies…there could be so many factors for why the people eating more miso had lower blood pressure other than the miso. In general, it's not good to add excess salt to the diet. Better off without it.

  87. If someone has a penicillin allergy, should they stay away from Miso? I have searched everywhere, and unable to find an answer! Thanks so much for your help!

  89. I buy white miso paste from the local Chinese supermarket here in Manchester, UK by the Kilo (and less than £6 per Kilogram)

  92. Question: how many ounces was each bowl of soup? The usual bowls of soup in Japanese restaurants are smaller than the typical American restaurant bowl, so does the study say how much was actually eaten? And, did the miso soup have tofu cubes in it or not? Would that have an effect?

  93. Miso can also be made from rice or barley. It's not necessarily soy. Some of the rice varieties are cured with soy though rather than pure salt, so you have to check the label. That being said, unless someone in Japan is having traditional dishes for lunch and dinner which contain miso, they probably had just a tablespoon of miso made into their morning soup, so it's all about the dosage. It's really about the probiotics in there though. They saved my life!

  95. Salt probably doesn't cause stomach cancer, a lack of fresh fruits and vegetables in Asian diets are more likely culprits.

    MIso soup is absolutely a healthy food to eat in moderation, the sodium content is not necessarily all that high if you make it yourself. It's a great probiotic food that is good for gut health.

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