I Confronted a Muslim About Animal Sacrifice, His Reaction Surprised Me

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The video: I met an Algerian muslim who loves animals but loves how they taste more, he surprised me

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93 Risposte a “I Confronted a Muslim About Animal Sacrifice, His Reaction Surprised Me”

  1. “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then from whence comes evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” — Epicurus

    “HERMES: How many are willing to criticize a god by the standards of reason and justice?

    SOCRATES: [Ponders.] All who are just, I suppose. For how can anyone be just if he follows a god of whose moral rightness he is not persuaded? And how is it possible to be persuaded of someone’s moral rightness without first forming a view about which qualities are morally right?” — David Deutsch, A Dream of Socrates

    “Whoever praises him as a God of love does not think highly enough of love itself.” — Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

  2. And Muslims can literally do everything they want regardless for its only advised for us to be more strict or conservative rather but I’ve seen all kinds of Muslim folks even I have eaten pork despite being Muslim

  3. Dude's open-minded and rational. If there's a religion whose God demands you to murder innocent sentient beings for him/her/it, that's probably a red flag. Sounds like Dammerism to me.

  4. Wow, this is really powerful. It would have been great for David to mention what he saw in the slaughterhouses related to the animals, but also how we he (as we all do) excused these atrocities because we are brainwashed to think this is necessary. Great job as always David!

  5. Sacrificing an animal makes no sense, especially when these people don’t even care about animals. Give up something that matters to you like your phone or money, not someone else’s life.

  6. Keep spreading the good and positive message ❤about being vegan brother and sorry I was upset ❤ I just commented without even completing the video so it’s completely my fault

  7. Love that girlfriend's mindset, hope she can change his defeatist views. That yearly animal sacrifice sure sounds like a Satanic ritual to me. You called some great backup with a powerful testimonial that anybody can be vegan. Fantastic & effective outreach, David!

  8. Actually I am vegan Muslim, and yes you can replacing the sacrifice with money because it's "Sunnah" not "Fardh" so it's not essential duty to Muslims, but most Muslims don't know that.

  9. That's a great point at the end. I might use that. When faced with someone who is rebelling against vegans, point out whom they really should be rebelling against.

  10. Taking a life (something that does not belong to you) is not a sacrifice. I can't sacrifice my neighbor's car. You can't sacrifice an animal's life.

  11. I don't know the validity of this argument, BUT. A few weeks before Christmas I meet a hungry homeless person who asked me for money for food. As I were quite hungry myself I decided to sit down with her for food. I chose some vegan option and I EVEN let HER decide if she wanted to follow suit. Spoiler alert: She didn't. Anyway there we were. A she sounded foreign I tried started the conversation off by asking where she was from. She was Iranian and had been traveling a lot. so I asked about that. It turned out she's a journalist who had fallen on hard times and had been homeless for many years. And this was the point of no return in the conversation. I wish I had kept my mouth shut here. I asked her how come and she explains how her situation was God's way to her faith. Each to there own I guess, but thing is she were balling her eyes out at the same time. There I were out in public and where I made a stranger cry that couldn't stop. I just wanted to get out of that convo asap.
    Eventually she did stop and asked me why I were vegan.
    I explained it as well as I could. Then she proceeded to tell me why veganism is immoral and that she would pray to her to guide me away from veganism (OK. Rude.). I'm paraphrasing, but these are HER words. In the beginning Indians and middel eastern people shared some landmasses, but since the Indians worshipped a cow god that made the woman's god super annoyed to the point where Iranians and Indians started fighting. The Iranians eventually got banished from the Indian terriroty. That's why The woman's god told the middle eastern people to slaughter cows and other animals (since all animals are reincarnations of bad people) as a way to provoke the cow god. And to top it all off she ended her monologue with "… and this &¤#%/&% cow god sent 2000 cows to the Netherlands, can you believe the audacity? It's true, you can look it up."

    I knew then it was high time to exit the conversation, so I did.

    If that even remotely resembles the the truth I don't know cows or other animals got much of a chance in that region, so thanks for your dedication to the cause, David.

  12. "Qurbani" can be done by donating wealth to food packages, not needing to include, or sacrifice the flesh of another animal.

  13. Fantastic vegan outreach !
    Very direct and kept focus on personal accountability.
    I hope the Muslim man finds the courage to change his diet,no one should have to suffer and die because of your food choices.

  14. Hi there, I would love to become vegan but I have a question which I've not quite got my head around. What would be the distinction between killing an animal and killing a plant? What makes it appropriate to kill a plant but not to kill an animal?

  15. People pull up religion to prove some point and end up shooting themselves in a foot. No religion on this planet will be a good excuse to abuse anyone and anything nor absolve you from it. I literally don't care do you believe in Xenoleon, the God of Kepler 123. Religious people end up pushing people away from the religion by stating their God actually loves violence. If your God requires death to be omnipotent, what type of a God is that? That is not a good God. That is a Devil you serve. Sacrifice is usually considered a pagan ritual, which Abrahamic religions dislike. Why would you even allow yourself to be played like a fiddle to serve a God who needs blood to thrive? Why would an omnipotent, ever-present being require an animal to be killed in his/her name? That is such a human-level way of thinking. People literally insult their own God/s by claiming that. If I were a being who created the entire Universe, Time, Space, Planets, Black Holes, Physics, Life, it would be so insulting to me that my own creation thinks I need an animal (also my creation) to be killed so I would consider them to be good people, that I'd hate someone based on their gender, that I need money and OCD-level rituals. I would literally start to weep. It really feels people serve the guy they where told not to: the Devil himself. He really did fool them.

  16. This is bullshit. My father is muslim from Syria and has never slaughtered an animal in his life. That may be an Algerian custom but not an Islamic one.

    But very good on the girlfriend for picking it up right away

  17. What a lovely, smart young couple. They were genuinely interested and understood exactly what you were talking about and didn't have all the usual BS. I hope they both try and succeed. Good work, mate👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  18. The book.. How to argue with a meat eater and win every time by Ed us such a game changer. This has made my street outreach so easy. Would recommend this book to everyone!

  19. We reference the death, the slaughterhouse etc a lot but, to my mind, for most of these poor souls the slaughterhouse isn’t even the worst thing that they suffer.

  20. I have some basic knowledge in Islamic jurisprudence, read quite a bit on topic. Although I do not assert myself as an expert or a scholar, and I am susceptible to errors. According to my comprehension, in Islam, it is deemed highly serious and deviant to declare something permissible (halal) that is actually forbidden (haram), or vice versa. Whether you agree or disagree, this is fundamental knowledge within the Muslim community.

  21. How many times I’ve heard people say ‘’it’s my culture’’, but it’s all our cultures, I came from a typical East London ‘meat’ & two veg upbringing, people in Eastern Europe also have a strong culture of ‘meat’ eating, US, Oz BBQ’s and so on!. I can’t help it whenever i hear people say ‘’it’s my culture’’ I wanna shout yes and my culture and many other cultures, it’s not unique to 1 culture! 🌻✊🏽🌎

  22. Great to see open minded young people willing to listen and consider other possibilities. Its so true we have all been brainwashed and lied to by the industry. We are still bombarded with bs propaganda through advertising. But thankfully today there is easy access to accurate information. Thanks for getting out there and sharing it with the public and challenging harmful beliefs. Oppression should always been challenged. Animals are the most vulnerable members of our society. Breeding them into existence because of tradition (we've always done it), culture, religion, taste is the epitome of selfish, arrogant entitlement. Leave animals alone people. There's no excuse to support the holocaust. Its easier than ever to live vegan. Change begins with you!

  23. Poor boy ..
    He is not prepared to be questioned 8n such a way ..
    if he were about to go vegan, he won't go vegan forever …

  24. Such nice young people, they had their own opinion, but after being given the reality of animal agriculture they listened and slowly took it on board, and in many ways that's what separates those who might become vegan and those who won't, it's the ones with true empathy (and dare I say the intelligence) that take new information onboard and act on it, the rest may as well still be in those caves you talked about 😏

  25. we need a culture shift – eating animals is eating our friends. killing animals is killing our friends. we have enough to feed the world vegan, we can spare them and ourselves the suffering

  26. Halal slaughter should never have been allowed in the UK. It only happened because of kosher being allowed so as not to be seen as anti-Semitic after the War.

  27. 13:26 I actually disagree this point. The people should be like the most fuck the system are older than them. I'm 36 and I know on instinct level this system fucking me. You can rationalize capitalism and neo-liberalism and all but true realization comes when you experience it. These guys are not that. Not really, not yet.

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