Sale della Terra – Diete a base di sodio e vegetali

Una dieta a base vegetale è sufficiente per raggiungere gli obiettivi di sodio?
I non vegetariani ne assumono quasi 3,500 milligrammi di sodio al giorno in media, l'equivalente di circa un cucchiaino e mezzo di tavola sale. Ora, le linee guida dietetiche degli Stati Uniti raccomandano di assumere meno di 2,300 al giorno e il L'American Heart Association dice, in nessun modo, di ottenere meno di 1,500 al giorno. I vegetariani hanno fatto meglio, ma hanno comunque raddoppiato il limite dell'American Heart Association.

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Fa parte della mia serie estesa sul sodio. Se te lo sei perso, controlla: <br/> • L'ipertensione può essere una scelta (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/high-blood -la-pressione-può-essere-scelta/)
• Spolverare il dubbio: prendere gli scettici del sodio con un pizzico di sale (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/sprinkling-doubt-taking-sodium-skeptics-with-a-pinch-of-salt/)
• L'evidenza che il sale aumenta la pressione sanguigna ( http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-evidence-that-salt-raises-blood-pressure/ )
• Gli scettici del sodio cercano di scuotere il dibattito sul sale (http://nutritionfacts. org/video/sodium-skeptics-try-to-shake-up-the-salt-debate/)
• Scuotere l'abitudine al sale (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/shaking-salt-habit/)
• Sodio e Funzione arteriosa: salatura A del nostro endotelio ( http://nutritionfacts.org/video/sodium-and-arterial-function-a-salting-our-endothelium /)

IO Se stai già eliminando gli alimenti trasformati e non stai ancora raggiungendo i tuoi obiettivi di pressione sanguigna, guarda il mio ultimo video, L'insalata di alghe Wakame può abbassare la pressione sanguigna ( http: //nutritionfacts.org/video/wakame-seaweed-salad-may-lower-blood-pressure) e pochi altri:
• Hibiscus Tea vs. Diete vegetali per l'ipertensione (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/hibiscus-tea-vs-plant-based-diets-for-hypertension /)
• Semi di lino per l'ipertensione (http://nutritionfacts .org/video/flax-seeds-for-hypertension/)
• Come prevenire l'ipertensione con la dieta (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-to-prevent-high-blood-pressure-with-diet/)
• Come trattare la pressione alta con la dieta (http://nutritionfacts.org/video/how- per-trattare-la-pressione-alta-con-dieta/)
• Sangue ossigenante con verdure ricche di nitrati (h ttp://nutritionfacts.org/video/oxygenating-blood-with-nitrate-rich-vegetables)

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100 Risposte a “Sale della Terra – Diete a base di sodio e vegetali”

  1. The amount of sodium in food in the US is just astonishing. Whole-grain bread has almost twice the sodium per serving as Doritos. Any soup or frozen item has around 20% of the recommended daily value. Big changes need to be made.

  2. Why do people get ill from drinking to much water… Because it dilutes the salt, you need salt.

    If you drink a lot of water and do a lot of exercise you need salt because you loose in perspiration.

    Yes processed salt is bad for you and too much salt of any kind is too.

    However Sea salt and Himalayan salt is good for you it contains minerals that we need and is a natural salt.

    Processed salt contains like 98% sodium and some other crap but sea salt has like 80% and the rest is minerals.

    This is the kind of salt you need.

  3. What about iodine (from iodized salt)? I eat almost exclusively whole plants, no salt added, and sporadic processed food. I've been tracking nutrient intake, and every day I am not even 50%. I e also noticed since going vegan and almost no salt (or iodine) I dehydrate very easily with exercise. Should I add a bit of iodized salt?

  4. What about Braggs Liquid Aminos? We've been salting our food with that for decades. And for recipes I use Real Salt. It's so strong tasting it doesn't take much.

  5. This is such a contentious issue. What about Pamela Popper recommending a sodium intake of between 3000-6000mg? (and yes, SODIUM intake not salt as a whole) This is, I believe, based on some studies published in NEJM in 2014

  6. I eat a lot of swiss chard everyday which surpasses the 2500mg range of sodium on that alone, but i do not add salt to my food, the sodium content comes exclusively from plant foods. Is this a problem?

  7. Stop calling salt sodium!!! Natural unrefined salt is around 84% sodium with the remaining 16% composed of over 60 essential minerals. The problem is the over-consumption of refined salt!!

  8. I've been aware of the danger of sodium chloride ( salt ) in food and avoid adding salt to my vegan diet , but , is potassium chloride just as bad ?

  9. Always great information, thanks! As a Raw Vegan, salt is not an issue. If people could just avoid anything in packages they would be fine, just eat out of the produce section.

  10. Hi Doc, I'm a bit confused! I eat no processed food! almost vegan, I was told we need 2 to 4 grams a day which I wouldn't be adding, and last week my GP told me my sodium levels were too low! and to increase my salt!! Am I in any danger as a cardio myopathy patient? Thanks for your greatly informative videos.

  11. Biased video once again. All meat is NOT high in sodium! PROCESSED meats are high in sodium. To imply otherwise, as this video does, is pure propaganda.

  12. btw:
    in every video that u use the facecam the whole video has fps issues
    might be some rendering issue (<less likely) or ur pc cant handle all the programs being open at once (<very likely)
    so it might be good to record the facecam part separately

  13. Love ya Doc x a million but that effect with you mid vid is creepy — takes away from seriousness of science you are givng–special effects distract–lor that one does anyway ose it–always grateful for your work !!!

  14. Dear Dr Greger, I appreciate your work and dedication and what you do has no price tag. Thank you! Also I'd add a friendly and viewier's suggestion and feedback and that is: please take the acting and playing around with the voice and text out of the reading and equation…it is hard to focus on the message if I focus on readers ups and downs in the tone of voice. I find it completely uneccessary just like eating meat eggs and dairy. The less is more so is with food so is with reading. Please hear me…

  15. Hi all! Just to summarize, while some sodium is needed in life, we in the US eat far too much. If we collectively were to reduce average salt intake from over 4g/day to 1.2g/day, this analysis estimates we could reduce the number of new cases of blocked heart arteries from 60,000-120,000 fewer per year, strokes by 32,000 to 66,000 fewer per year, heart attacks by 54,000-94,000 fewer per year, and death from all causes by 44,000 to 92,000 fewer per year. There is gigantic potential to prevent many of the horrible ways people die! And effects on medical costs could also be huge. Here's one of the many studies Dr G reviews:

    This article (10.1056/NEJMoa0907355) was published on January 20, 2010, at NEJM.org.
    N Engl J Med 2010;362:590-9.
    Copyright © 2010 Massachusetts Medical Society.
    The new england journal of medicine original article

    Projected Effect of Dietary Salt Reductions on Future Cardiovascular Disease
    Kirsten Bibbins-Domingo, Ph.D., M.D., Glenn M. Chertow, M.D., M.P.H., Pamela G. Coxson, Ph.D., Andrew Moran, M.D., James M. Lightwood, Ph.D., Mark J. Pletcher, M.D., M.P.H., and Lee Goldman, M.D., M.P.H.
    Abstract
    Background
    The U.S. diet is high in salt, with the majority coming from processed foods. Re- ducing dietary salt is a potentially important target for the improvement of public health.
    Methods
    We used the Coronary Heart Disease (CHD) Policy Model to quantify the benefits of potentially achievable, population-wide reductions in dietary salt of up to 3 g per day (1200 mg of sodium per day). We estimated the rates and costs of cardiovascu- lar disease in subgroups defined by age, sex, and race; compared the effects of salt reduction with those of other interventions intended to reduce the risk of cardio- vascular disease; and determined the cost-effectiveness of salt reduction as com- pared with the treatment of hypertension with medications.
    Results
    Reducing dietary salt by 3 g per day is projected to reduce the annual number of new cases of CHD by 60,000 to 120,000, stroke by 32,000 to 66,000, and myocar- dial infarction by 54,000 to 99,000 and to reduce the annual number of deaths from any cause by 44,000 to 92,000. All segments of the population would benefit, with blacks benefiting proportionately more, women benefiting particularly from stroke reduction, older adults from reductions in CHD events, and younger adults from lower mortality rates. The cardiovascular benefits of reduced salt intake are on par with the benefits of population-wide reductions in tobacco use, obesity, and choles- terol levels. A regulatory intervention designed to achieve a reduction in salt intake of 3 g per day would save 194,000 to 392,000 quality-adjusted life-years and $10 bil- lion to $24 billion in health care costs annually. Such an intervention would be cost-saving even if only a modest reduction of 1 g per day were achieved gradually between 2010 and 2019 and would be more cost-effective than using medications to lower blood pressure in all persons with hypertension.
    Conclusions
    Modest reductions in dietary salt could substantially reduce cardiovascular events and medical costs and should be a public health target.

  16. Sodium intake may be negated by high amounts of water consumption. No need to spoil the taste. One the other hand, after two weeks of no sodium consumption people usually develop a higher sensitivity to salt in foods, which makes common foods appear saltier than before. That's a good thing which results in overall decrease of sodium needs.

  17. My systolic bp changed from 130 to 180 on a high salt diet, think chicken wings and bbq this summer back to 130 when I went on a very low salt diet. This shocked and pleased me I thought a low salt diet would do 10-20 pts max. Does this sound right? What was more interesting is my BP was 180 at 215lbs, 165 at 212, 150 at 209 down to 130 at 205 that is 5pts per lb of water fluid.

  18. I'm confused! I'm a whole-food vegan who uses cronometer to track my food. I almost always fail to meet the RDA for sodium and specifically add iodized sea salt in an effort to meet the RDA and to help my under-active thyroid (I have Hashimoto's). Should I try a different approach?

  19. in the first bar chart averages are well over 4g with targets of <3.8 but in later charts avg consumption is reported as ~3.4 and healthy targets as low as <1.5g. Love the videos but this one leads to some confusion and it isn't clear which data are correct or how much lowering is worthwhile on an individual basis and seems slanted toward pushing a vegan lifestyle.

  20. You should really read what Dr. McDougall says about salt. He points out that salt isn't nutritious obviously, but a little bit of salt on our food makes it a lot more tasty and easy to eat for people and I agree with that. I think we should switch from high fat, high sodium and animal based foods to a low fat plant based diet with a moderate amount of salt. A normal amount of salt is fine and will add a lot of pleasure to our diets without adverse consequences.  Two quotes from the British Medical Journal (2002) and the NHANES III study from the Journal of General Internal Medicine (2008) also give evidence that lowering salt intake isn't unhealthy and won't save a lot of lives. British Medical Journal – “Lowering sodium intake may have adverse effects on vascular endothelium through stimulation of the renin-angiotensin system and on serum total and low density lipoprotein cholesterol concentrations. In cohort studies, lower salt intake in people with hypertension has been associated with higher levels of cardiovascular disease and in general populations with greater all cause mortality.” NHANES III Study – “Observed associations of lower sodium with higher mortality were modest and mostly not statistically significant. However, these findings also suggest that for the general US adult population, higher sodium is unlikely to be independently associated with higher CVD or all-cause mortality.”
    Hooper L, Bartlett C, Davey Smith G, Ebrahim S. Systematic review of long term effects of advice to reduce dietary salt in adults. BMJ. 2002 Sep 21;325(7365):628.Cohen HW, Hailpern SM, Alderman MH. Sodium intake and mortality follow-up in the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III). J Gen Intern Med. 2008 Sep;23(9):1297-302.)

  21. Avoiding salt when going out to eat is incredibly difficult. I was just out yesterday with family and I didn't get anything at the restaurant we stopped at because everything was made out of salt.

    I really don't understand why there aren't a few no salt added options at every restaurant for people who are trying to eat a little more healthy. Maybe they figure everyone who wants to do so has given up on restaurants already. I have.

  22. we need 1500 mg of salt in our diet a day right?? half a teaspoon? Is this achievable following a strict raw vegan diet? I don't think so. in my experience, adding a pinch of salt in water before the gym (around 400mg assumingly) has helped me with dealing with heart palpitations, which was uncomfortable and hindered my training tremendously. Now I'm fine. the human body needs salt to prevent water toxicity, it's real and not to be underestimated, this is directed towards athletes who drink alot of water but don't sweat enough. We salt, and its difficult to know how much unless you know exactly, what is 100% going in your mouth.

  23. I love it when the food police not only tell us what we havta eat, but force what they think best on us.

    I don't mind information, but RESENT people telling us what I MUST eat or not eat.

    Thanks, But I'll pass

  24. Wow I am no where near the 1600 mg of salt, but I am a european vegan :/ Right next to me is an old can of veggies I ate as a whole, without the Water it was 455g of veggies (green beans), containing 4g of fucking salt. Either the measurements are wrong or something else is fishy, since they didn't taste salty at all…

  25. The logic is unconvincing at best. Salt has been one of the most valuable produce in human history. If you shouldn't take more than a half teaspoon of salt, why has it been sought after for so long a time? Something's wrong about this.

  26. And if you have low blood pressure caused by heat, what is the solution? We are told to take salty food to increase the blood pressure.

  27. Correlation is not causation. Many people with high salt intake usually have high salt intake from eating unhealthy foods- it's not just the salt itself in those foods that are causing them to be unhealthy. There is plenty of research out there showing that cutting salt for some people is actually dangerous. There is also no "one size fits all" for salt, some people can function perfectly fine with less than a gram of salt while others NEED more. I'm not saying to eat however much you want but "lower your salt" is not as big of a deal as people make it to be and it should not be said as a blanket statement when it can actually hurt some people.

    From my personal experience, I eat probably twice the salt that anybody else eats and have always had low blood pressure. On the other hand my dad died at 47 from hypertension even though he was on medication for it plus he had to cut salt out of his diet 10 years earlier. I know this is anecdotal but as I said, there is no "one size fits all" when it comes to salt. Most people can filter salt very well and it has almost no effect on them while others have an immediate reaction to it. Test it yourself, go on a low salt diet and see if there are any improvements if not, then you don't need to cut your salt.

  28. i just find it insane how much ppl eat oh my goodness. even when i'm eating my most salty foods, i don't eat nearly as much as the american average.

  29. Excellent video and information, thank you dr Greger.

    I hope Dr Greger that you’ll try Homeopathy or look deeper into this science and reassess your view about it, because homeopathic treatment has literally saved my mother life, and made the greatest positive changes in all my family health .

  30. I am constantly "confused about sodium" because 1) I need to convert units of measure from weight to volume, and 2) salt is about 1/3 sodium. When I cook, I add salt by a teaspoon measure (volume), not by adding sodium with a scale (weight). Example: At 3:15, "non-vegetarians get about 3500 milligrams of sodium per day – about a teaspoon and a half [of salt]", says Dr.Gregar. To do the math to understand that conversion, I looked up one teaspoon of salt weighs 6 grams (6000 milligrams), but contains about 2.3 grams of sodium (2300 milligrams). So 3500 mg sodium / 2300 sodium in 1 tsp salt = 1.5 tsp salt. Note at 1:15 the target salt intake is 5.8 grams (5800 milligrams) of salt, about 1 teaspoon. From data in this video, non-vegetarians should reduce their salt from 1.5 tsp to 1 tsp/day.

  31. Conflicting information. There are some studies that show that 5000 mg of sodium has the lowest association with the risk od death. That was found over hundreds of thousands of people in dozens of countries…. Lower sodium intake increases the risk of death and so does higher sodium in take. But the lower you go, the faster the risk goes up compared to going higher than 5000 mg.

    In the USA sodium intake is actually below the world average.

    Could be that on a very high carb diet you need less sodium because your body holds on to sodium when you eat high carb. On a low carb diet your kidneys get rid of much more salt so naturally your salt requirements depend on how much of your diet consists of carbs.

  32. It is not very difficult for omnivores to consume less than 1500 mg of salt daily. I eat meat & meat products at every meal. I eat 3x a day, and often have a snack that may or may not consist of dairy products. My sodium intake is consistently under 1500 mg per day. I believe overconsumption of sodium has more to do with processed foods and portion sizes rather than whether or not a person eats meat and/or meat products. You often tout research that equalizes for various factors, but you fell short on this one.

    Yes. Meat eaters tend to make less healthy food choices and eat more processed and fast foods. But that doesn't mean we can't make healthier food choices while eating meat & meat products and STILL consistently be under the 1500mg sodium limit.

  33. I just watched Dr McDougall whose advise is quite different of not contradictory, perhaps you would comment.

    On a personal note on self examination of my blood pressure after eating processed (salt added) food I've (not a rigorous scientific test) observed that my blood pressure seems to be up to 10 points higher (1 point in the European system) and have therefore continued to limit added sadly in my diet, but I don't fear it, and sometimes if I feel I want it I will consume it but usually only in convenience or occasional vegan junk food.

  34. So, even though Pink Himalayan salt is touted to have over 84 essentials minerals contained in it—it still is seen as something that we need to avoid for optimal health. Correct, anyone? 🙂

  35. The question is whether this is causation or just correlation. I mean the people who eat more salt have obvisouly a less healthy diet.

  36. Oddly enough I changed my diet again to WFPB recently,(many times prior but I'm human), and had a "cheat meal" the other day. It was that or not eat for 8 hours so don't come for me, I got a favorite meal and omg the salt taste was horrible after only a week on the new diet. I had never noticed how salty it was before or how sugary the other things were, like so sugary it made me inhale and hiss like it was hot, I nearly choked. I used to eat like that pretty daily. One week, a bit less, I think it was only 5 days, and you'd be amazed how bad your favorite take out meals actually taste. It was so disgusting that from now on I will be taking grabby foods like apples and carrots or something with me anytime I may not get back home in time for a meal.

  37. if tea spoon of salt is 5grams. how much salt do get from eating fist of broccoli cooked in water salted with 1 tea spoon of salt?

  38. I don’t eat processed foods; do I need some salt added to my food, or is salt like alcohol, where a zero amount is healthiest?

  39. My 87 year old grandfather has been admitted to hospital twice in the last 2 months (diagnosed with low sodium) and has been sent home being told there is nothing that can be done for him. He's been prescribed a low fluid intake and weekly checkups, but his energy is drastically low and weight is dropping rapidly. Is there a dietary intervention that can potentially help him in some way?

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